are the same. you eat things of value and then instead of snacking on things not, you go find something interesting to do.
And here's your first basic tip after that: Never eat any bread or pasta.
But don't go crazy avoiding carbs. Instead of eating bread, do grain in a rice cooker - any grain or mix of grain you want. I know my favorite (search ryse).
If you remember just one thing I ever said, let it be that all bread group (or any other group) exchanges are not the same. A slice of bread from the store will never be anything like something homemade. Huge difference in your sugar, huge difference in your anything else. Long term as well as short. I don't care what the wrapper says about whole and multi and HFCS-free.